Benge serial number data base

Serial numbers under 10,000

Serial Number

Notes

Year

Model

Bell

Owner

9963

1973

3x

Los Angeles

John Dougherty

9771

6x

Los Angeles

Alejandro Valcazar

9727

1973

3x

Los Angeles

Tom Turner

9680

1973

3x+

Los Angeles

Chris Beverly

9623

1972

ML

Los Angeles

Michael D. Poulos

9550

(18)

MLP

Martin USA

Jim Cathey

9468

1971

3x

Los Angeles

F. A. Pérez-Ferrer

9388

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Dwight Clinton

9371

1972

L/CG

Los Angeles

Lionel Busch

9272

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Jerry Crowell

9227

1972

CG

Los Angeles

Dave Richards

9115

1972

ML

Los Angeles

Micheal Glidewell

8988

1972

5x

Los Angeles

Pete Andrews

8964

1974

5x

Los Angeles

John Givens

8905

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Vicki Friedemann

8826

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Kurt Nystrom

8764

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Neal Smith

8727

1972

3x+

Los Angeles

Ken Ward

8525

1972

Los Angeles

Brian Sundnas

8516

1972

5x

Los Angeles

Patrick Olguin

8448

1971

2x

Los Angeles

Dan Rugg

Serial Number

Notes

Year

Model

Bell

Owner/Buyer

8380

(3)

1971

6x

Burbank (no address)

Patrick Olguin

8377

ML

Burbank

Kevin Marks

8276

1970

MLP

Burbank

Lee Isdell

8216

1971

3x

Burbank

Greg Goodknight

8174

1970

3x+

Burbank

Jason Blough

8139

1970

3x

Burbank

Paul Smart

8014

1970

3x

Burbank

Bill Winkler

7991

ML

Burbank

Pete Sahakangas

7984

Pocket

Burbank

Gerald D. Snell

7944

1970

ML

Burbank

Tyler Joseph Scott

7899

1970

ML

Burbank

Sid Lasaine

7878

1969

3x

Burbank

Bill Atwood

7814

1969

3x

Burbank

Tim Murtaugh

7659

1969

5x

Burbank

Rick Baptist

7640

1969

ML+

Burbank

Rick Dawson

7576

1969

3x

Burbank

Randy Murphy

7552

2C (ML)

Burbank

Dennis P. Metz

7484

(5)

1972

3C (ML+)

Burbank

MaryLee Perkins

7481

1969

2C (ML+)

Burbank

Stephen P. Cohen

7471

1972

ML

Burbank

Tom England

7296

1969

2x+

Burbank

William J. AuMiller

7233

1969

2x

Burbank

Kevin McKnight

7202

1969

ML+

Burbank

Dave Heyman

6988

3x+

Burbank

Jules Jodko

6952

ML

Burbank

William C. Cutler

6943

1968

L

Burbank

Mike Torres

6921

1968

5x

Burbank

Butch Ashley

6862

1966

3x+

Burbank

Mike Ackerman

6846

Burbank

Roger Penn

6705

1966

3x

Burbank

Don Stafford

6690

1968

3x+

Burbank

Willard Kuehl

6634

1967

2x

Burbank

Rick Vaughn

6478

1967

MLP

Burbank

Gary Perrigo

6440

1967

5x

Burbank

Butch Ashley

6433

3x

Burbank

Charles Ryan

6421

(15)

1966

Los Angeles

Buddy LeBlanc

6399

5x

Burbank

Stephen Mitchell

6363

1965

ML

Burbank

Jim Talevich

6298

1964

Burbank

Greg Foster

6159

C

Burbank

Carolyn Thibideau

6090

1967

MLP

Burbank

Ray McWhirter

5976

(10)

1968

3x

Burbank

Madge B. Hazen*

5956

C

Burbank

Liz Carney

5948

1966

ML+

Burbank

George Keen

5856

2C (ML+)

Burbank

Mike Peterson

5805

1965

5x

Burbank

Don Adams

5791

1965

ML

Burbank

Tom Haupt

5683

1966

3x

Burbank

Jules Jodko

5666

1964

Burbank

Robert Tapio

5594

1964

3x

Burbank

Craig Iansiti

5561

1964

ML

Burbank

Greg Burns

5481

1964

ML

Los Angeles?

David Novak

5453

1965

3x+

Burbank

Marc Brandl

5425

1964

2x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

5412

1965

3x

Burbank

Lyndel D. Brumley

5407

(16)

MLP

Burbank

Tony Fisher

5363

1964

5x

Burbank

Steve Veikley

5355

1964

ML+

Burbank

Dennis Metz

5210

1963

unk

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

5178

1963

ML

Burbank

John Ellis

Serial Number

Notes

Year

Model

Bell

Owner/Buyer

4992

1957?

2x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4983

1963

C (ML)

Burbank

MaryLee Perkins

4899

1963

3x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4895

1963

3x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4870

1962

C 3x+

Burbank

Dave Clark

4829

1962

3x

Burbank

Steve Wright

4735

D/Eb

Burbank

David Houston

4729

1962-3

3x

Burbank

David George

4720

D/Eb

Burbank

Mary Lee Perkins

4608

1962

2x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4604

1961

2x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4578

(11)

1960

LB

Burbank

Don Rugg

4516

1960

Burbank

David Vorspan

4474

1962

3x

Burbank

Gene Newman

4472

1960

ML

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4462

1960

ML 5x

Burbank

Stanley Lane

4459

1961

5xb

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4358

(6)

1960

2x

Burbank

Dave Clark

4332

Burbank

Jerry Holcomb

4200

1961

L?

Burbank

George Dodaro

4196

1958

Burbank

Charles Citron

4194

(6)

1959

2x

Burbank

Bill Leifer

4146

ML

Burbank

Dennis Mueller

4122

1958

5x

Burbank

Bill Fairgraves

4095

1959

ML

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4021

1958

5x

Burbank

Tom Lovitt

4019

ML

Burbank

Marc W. Brandl

3968

1958

(Bb)

Burbank

Eldon Lehman

3938

ML+

Burbank

Lloyd King

3885

(8)

ML+

Burbank

Don Davis

3883

1957

ML

Burbank

Steve Johnson

3861

1957

ML

Burbank

Ken Konicek

3830

1959

(Bb)

Burbank

David W. Leavens

3783

(2)

ML

Burbank

Lonnie Griffith

3781

1952

ML

Burbank

James H. Haessler

3764

ML

Burbank

John Neumeister

3761

Burbank

David W. Packard

3669

ML

Burbank

Zack Taylor

3659

1956

ML

Burbank

Charlie Turner

3603

Burbank

Joe/Ray Triscari

3513

1953

Burbank

Kenneth Herbst

3425

1954

ML

Burbank

Robert Polland

3407

ML

Burbank

Barry Brown

3385

(17)

1953

Burbank

Richard Picolla

3370

1954

Burbank

Wayne Holm

3361

1952

ML

Burbank

David L. Parrish

3352

Burbank

Dennis Gebhardt

Serial Number

Notes

Year

Model

Bell

Owner/Buyer

3327

1953

ML

Chicago

Jim Taylor

3321

ML

Chicago

Dick Prestage

3225

1951

ML

Chicago

Mike Mattfield

3221

ML

Chicago

Lowell Stevenson

3191

1955

C

Chicago

Eldon Lehman

3177

1951-2

C

Chicago

Charles Mauger

3165

ML

Chicago

Joe Lill

3069

(12)

D/Eb

Chicago

Stephen Jeandheur

3037

1952

Bb

Chicago

Fred Foeh

3031

(9)

1954

Bb

Chicago

Carolyn Thibideau

2983

1952

D

Chicago

Frank Kaderabek

2919

1951

ML

Chicago

"Doc" Bosworth

2845

1950

custom Bb

Chicago

Frank A. DeFilippo

2655

1952-3

Bb

Chicago

Edward J Linder

2495

48-49

Bb ML

Chicago

Roger E. Tidaback

2472

D

Chicago

Carolyn Thibideau

2455

Bb

Chicago

Jim Robinson

2445

46-47

Bb

Chicago

Dan Tomasek

2405

1949

Bb

Chicago

Tony Principali

2384

1953

Bb

Chicago

Ron Lipka

2325

1946

Bb

Chicago

David Cox

2192

Bb

Chicago

David Summer

2057

Bb

Chicago

John R. Poor

2015

(14)

1946

Bb

Chicago

Nick Caselli

1839

LB

Chicago

Jeff Briddle

1836

(1)

1968

Burbank

Wally White

1804

1965

LB

Burbank

Lloyd Krivanek

1803

LB

Burbank

Gil Lindsley

1790

1964

LB

Burbank?

Tom Lovitt

1768

1962

LB

Burbank?

Tom Lovitt

1759

1960

LB

Burbank?

Tom Lovitt

1745

1963

LB

Burbank?

Tom Lovitt

1542

LB

Chicago

Dudley Stone

1537

(1)

1950?

LB

Chicago

Sean Mason

1515

Chicago

Tom Nicholson

989

1942

Bb

Chicago

Mario Pino

914

1941?

cornet!

Chicago

Ryan Zoghlin

905

1940s

Chicago

Drew Techner

700

1940

Bb

Chicago

Bill Faust

635

1939

Bb

Chicago

Ryan Zoghlin

597

Chicago

Rick Dawson

560

(7)

1936

Bb

Chicago

Al Feldner

528

Bb

Chicago

Frank Kaderabek

525

(4)

Bb

Chicago

The first Benge?

Notes:

The Tom Lovitt material was copied from a post on the now defunct Benge Nut Guestbook, explaining:

From 1956 until 1962 I played trumpet in the Kansas City Philharmonic. During that time, and a few years after, I was the Benge dealer in Kansas City. Recently, I ran across the account book of some of my sales.

(1) According to Donald Benge, his father used serial numbers starting with 1500 for the large bore trumpets and Donald continued that into the 1900s, but could not go beyond #2000 as that would result in duplication. He started with about #500 (see below) and went straight forward except for numbers 1500 to about 1950 which would be large bores.

(2) Donald Benge recalls that it was about #3800 in 1952 when he moved from Chicago to Burbank.

(3) According to Pat Olguin, this horn might have been a Los Angeles horn originally. Zig remarked that he used to roll the "Burbank" die on re-belled Los Angeles horns for players who wanted it.

(4) According to Rick Dawson, Elden Benge told his son Donald that the serial number of the first Benge trumpet was 525. This was also verified to me insistently by Frank Kaderabek, who owns 528 and really wanted 527. But maybe not! Take a look at what may be Benge #520. Then there is Benge #500... wow...

(5) This horn was purchased by MaryLee Perkins after she played it at the NAMM show in 1972. Since it was a fairly rare C trumpet, it was likely made earlier, consistent with the other serial numbers, and likely hung around the shop for a while. There are other similar situations evident from the list, such as 6690.

(6) This horn was reported twice, once by Tom Lovitt as one of his sales, and once by the purchaser.

(7) For pictures of this extremely early Benge, and yet another bell hallmark, go here.

(8) Earliest MLP + found so far.

(9) The owner writes: The trumpet is in excellent condition and has been owned by me since about 1954. .I believe it might be the last Benge made in Chicago. My trumpet instructor at the National Music Camp, Interlochen, MI was Robert Grocock, who knew Elden Benge and had played in the Chicago Symphony Orchestra with him. He made arrangements for me to acquire the instrument. Mr. Benge was ready to move to Burbank, and the trumpet was actually mailed to me from Burbank.

(10) Madge Bruner Hazen purchased this horn when she was playing in the Jacksonville Symphony in 1968. She became seriously ill in 1982-83 and sold it to a man in Jacksonville who collected trumpets. About two weeks later, he died. She has no idea what his name was, though he had family in NYC. She wants to buy that trumpet back. Anybody who knows anything about it, please write her at: mbhazen@comcast.net.

(11) Rumored to be the last horn made under the personal supervision of Elden Benge, according to the owner.

(12) Formerly owned by Bernie Adelstein, principal trumpet for the Cleveland Orchestra from 1960 to 1988, and heard on many recordings.

(13) This horn was purchased by Tom Nicholson while the bell was flattened and the horn was hanging on the wall, surrounded by a frame, it's own kind of masterpiece. It has been restored and is beautful. For before and after pictures, go here.

(14) My father Eugene Caselli bought his Benge trumpet on May 20, 1946. I'm not sure what model it is as it's not marked on the Original Receipt that i have from Benge himself at the 1945 Morse address . My father paid $208.50 with a case and mouthpiece which i also still have . This trumpet was my father's pride and joy which he played all his life until the day before he passed in 1995 at the age of 82. He played with all the big bands through the 30s and 40s from the Chicago area and even played with the Harry James Band for a short time.

(15) The Burbank bell was severely damaged and replaced with a Los Angeles bell.

(16) Possibly the first Benge sold in the UK, according to the owner.

(17) This horn has the Burbank address, but the music staff logo.

(18) The Benge body has a six inch tunable bell made by Martin, engraved with "Martin USA" and 'Mic Gillette.' It is thought to be one of the prototypes of what became the Martin Magna made for Gillette.

 

How much is my Benge worth?


For serial numbers between 10,000 and 45,000, go here.

For serial numbers above 45,000 (the Eastlake Ohio Benges), I don't know where you should go. I'm told there is a code in the serial numbers (either six or eight digits) that reveals the year of manufacture, but nobody has told me the code.

If you have a Benge trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 10,000, and you know when it was purchased new by the original owner or know when it was manufactured, please let me know the serial number, year, model, and location as stated on the bell. 

Thanks.


 

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